Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/12/2002 03:40 PM Senate STA

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         SB 240-TERRORISTIC THREATENING/PIPELINE DAMAGE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN THERRIAULT announced there is a proposed CS for SB 240.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOE BALASH,  Staff to  Senate State  Affairs Committee,  explained                                                              
the work  draft does two things.  First, it adopts  the amendments                                                              
that  the Department  of  Law  recommended in  previous  hearings.                                                              
Those have to do with making damaging  pipeline or facilities part                                                              
of  the  conspiracy  statutes. It  also  incorporated  changes  to                                                              
murder in the first degree.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The major  change occurs  on page  4 where  the criminal  mischief                                                              
statutes   are  discussed.   Originally,  a   separate  crime   of                                                              
intentionally damaging  a pipeline or  an oil or gas  facility was                                                              
created as  a class A felony.  Under current law,  that particular                                                              
crime is criminal  mischief in the first degree  and classified as                                                              
a class  B felony. Rather  than create  a separate law,  they made                                                              
criminal  mischief   in  the  first  degree  a   class  A  felony,                                                              
accomplishing  the  same  thing.   All  the  other  crimes  within                                                              
criminal mischief in  the first degree meet the  requirements of a                                                              
class  A felony,  which  made it  easier to  move  that crime  up.                                                              
Problems arose in  criminal mischief in the second  degree because                                                              
part of criminal  mischief in the second degree  is tampering with                                                              
a  pipeline  or  oil  and gas  facility.  That  is  something  the                                                              
department  wanted to  move  up in  classification  to  a class  B                                                              
felony. The  only way to do that  was to pull everything  else out                                                              
of second degree  and put them into third degree.  This eventually                                                              
resulted in  a cascading  effect when  third degree became  fourth                                                              
degree  and  fourth  degree  became   fifth  degree.  All  of  the                                                              
classifications of  felonies and misdemeanors also  moved down the                                                              
scale.  All the  changes  in references  in  various statutes  are                                                              
reflected in the CS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN THERRIAULT  reminded members that the  Attorney General's                                                              
office had suggested that the original  bill structure would avoid                                                              
the cascading and renumbering effect.  However, the result of that                                                              
troubled  the  legislative  legal  counsel  because  the  existing                                                              
criminal  mischief  section would  have  this  new law  tacked  on                                                              
instead  of  incorporated  into  the  list.  The  CS  follows  the                                                              
suggestions  of  the  legislative   legal  drafters  to  keep  the                                                              
statutory structure as clean as possible.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He asked if members had questions  for Mr. Balash on the structure                                                              
of the CS.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if there  are already  guidelines for  the                                                              
fourth and fifth degrees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  said that  would be  a more  appropriate question  for                                                              
Mrs. Carpeneti.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ANNIE CARPENETI  from the  Department of Law  said the  crimes are                                                              
simply  being  reclassified. She  added  it  does not  change  the                                                              
sentencing provisions for the cascading offenses.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS said  he can certainly understand  bringing in gas                                                              
pipeline  or  oil  pipeline  supporting  facility  but  questioned                                                              
including  an airline  or  commercial vehicle.  He  asked if  this                                                              
means  that anything  that is  done  to an  aircraft that  exceeds                                                              
$500.00  is   automatically  a  second-degree   criminal  mischief                                                              
violation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He said he was referring to page  5, Section 9 and wondered if the                                                              
reference to an airplane includes both private and commercial.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MRS. CARPENETI  said  this is existing  law and  does include  all                                                              
aircraft. Currently  this is a class C felony and  she thought the                                                              
original drafters  of the  criminal code intended  for this  to be                                                              
broad based because  of the potential harm to  people and property                                                              
when anyone tampers with aircraft.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  thought  there  should  be  varying  degrees  of                                                              
punishment based on the size of the aircraft.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  THERRIAULT offered  the  thought that  whether  it is  a                                                              
Cessna or  a larger aircraft there  is the potential for  the loss                                                              
of life.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS responded  one is a catastrophic loss  of life and                                                              
one  could  be criminal  mischief.  In  his  opinion, there  is  a                                                              
difference between the intent to  damage an aircraft that is worth                                                              
$50,000.00  to  $100,000.00  versus   a  60  passenger  or  larger                                                              
airline.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MRS. CARPENETI  said the  scheme of  criminal mischief  does allow                                                              
for that. There is charging discretion  in the prosecutor's office                                                              
to account for the differences in harm to people and property.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN THERRIAULT  asked if she agrees that the  CS contains the                                                              
substance of what the Department of Law suggested.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MRS. CARPENETI thanked  the Chairman and said they  are in support                                                              
of the  substantive changes  and understand  the rationale  behind                                                              
setting it up this way.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There was no further testimony.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN THERRIAULT asked for a motion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  made a  motion to  adopt the 22-GS2097\F  Luckhaupt                                                              
2/12/02 version as the working document.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT noted  there were no  proposed amendments  and                                                              
the  fiscal  notes from  the  Department  of  Law and  the  Public                                                              
Defender Agency were zero.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He asked for the will of the committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS made  a motion to move CSSB 240(STA)  and two fiscal                                                              
notes from committee with individual recommendations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, CSSB 240(STA) moved from committee.                                                                   

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